why did they change helen in inspector lynley

The police were brutes who descended on the family because of their mixed race. Some may just shake their heads and laugh at this. . I think they had to find a new Helen because the old Helen was the least appealing character in this or almost any other show. i can see the subject of helen is still very much an issue. I mean, even my kids liked the original Dalgliesh, Marsdenwhen your kids like something or someone, that usually says it all!Kat Ramone. Awful, ugly, zero appeal. User Ratings She was sulky, surly and insensitive to the needs of anyone save herself.----------you're right: helen was really annoying, i couldn't stand her. . She was also the most attractive of the 3, again IMO. I will be pondering for some time to come on what could have been done differently, and would it have had a positive impact on the outcome? A Banquet of Consequences Unlike in many long-running mystery series, George's characters grow and change; sometimes gradually, sometimes (as in "With No One As Witness," in which Lynley's beloved wife, Helen, was suddenly murdered mid-book) in an instant. Why they changed actresses is unknown (to us) and there is no "official" word that I know of. I don't know if George's comments influenced the producers. To protect his family, Joel makes a pact with the devila move that leads straight to the front doorstep of Thomas Lynley. It appears she's committed suicide, but Havers feels something is wrong and calls for assistance from Scenes of Crime Officers. She also seems older. Became nearly impossible to put down in the 2nd half. My husband, Chris, he loves kids. That's all we have to say for the moment. Earlier on the day of Rookers murder, Eddie's chauffeur saw Eddie start a fight with Rooker, which ended in Rooker punching him. We hope the children will make it yet know so much is against them. Sarah (former Nefarious Breeder of Murderous Crustaceans). This book is the story of the boy involved and what lead up to the shooting. She was sulky, surly and insensitive to the needs of anyone save herself. We will miss her. I think she's one of the most annoying characters in a British crime/drama series I've ever seen. I do believe those of you who have though. It's just too unbelievable and that's the nail in the new helen's coffin, in my opinion. Catherine Russell is much better, but the character herself, as written, is very unsympathetic. I don't want to be unkind about the actress, but I disagree, angelofvic, quite honestly I find the old Helen truly ugly. So it's not obvious, as you say. As they uncover a wealth of dark secrets,. We're simply pursuing a line of questioning. Compared to Vickerage's Helen I even prefer Joyce Barnaby by a mile. However, when the villain is revealed it isnt totally clear how he could have managed to kill, given a thorough investigation at the start. Havers searches Finnegan's office where she finds a bundle of letters and photographs from women with whom he has had affairs - including one from Helen. It is the story of three children, mother is unhinged and under care, father is dead from a murder, grandma has abandoned them and ran away to Jamaica. With Havers' help, he confronts the murderer - Tessa Jellicoe, who'd been having a relationship with Finnegan's wife Grace. That story begins on the other side of London in rough North Kensington, where the three, Thank you. Het gaat dan ook al gauw mis met het meisje Ness (15) en ook Joel (11) loopt tegen allerlei moeilijkheden aan. It picks up a mere three months from the last book. Just off topic I thought the one ep that Liza Tarbuck was in she was great, quite dry with a big sense of humour and I get the impression the new Helen is like that. OK, this is a very well written and believably realistic, but otherwise just depressing and mostly uninteresting tale of what happened before "With No One as Witness" (in which Inspector Linley's wife is shot). I started reading her mysteries in high school, and even had the fantastic opportunity of interviewing her for a high school research paper. cheers renate, hi lynn! Her husband, media magnate Eddie Price, was probably aware of it. When she returned in "Natural Causes" they pretty much glossed over her selfish disappearance, and Tommy greets her back as if he hadn't suffered at all.My guess is that Vickerage decided not to continue and was thus "written out" of subsequent episodes. The brutal, inexplicable death of Inspector Thomas Lynley's wife, Helen, has left Scotland Yard shocked and searching for answers. External Reviews out of the characterAs for the Vickerage characterization, it is true that Elizabeth George found it appalling, but the relationship between Helen and Tommy in the BBC series was the BEST thing--apart from the Havers/Lynley tensions, of course--about it. I didn't guess who the killer was until about 10 minutes until the end. when did Lynley and Helen get married?? Anthony Calf. Where was Inspector Lynley A Great Deliverance filmed? Helen just turned tail and took off without notice. As events unfold, the climax of the story builds up suspense all the way to the very end. Her "retired Chief Constable" is a posh gent. Joel, the 12 year old, is targeted by a bully who not only beats him and his little brother up, but tries more than once to actually kill them. She was from his 'class' of people though. Helen sets off in her car to give the letter to Lynley but, on a quiet country road, someone shoots at Helen's car, driving it off the road and into a tree. DC Havers and DC Billy Slaven discover a woman's body. This novel,however, was pretty obvious from the beginning once you got into the Lanchester village and learned of the main characters. I will read anything she publishes. A Suitable Vengeance: Directed by Edward Bennett. For what it's worth, I DETEST Martin Shaw as Adam Dalgliesh, but Roy Marsden has aged a great deal, as anyone who saw him in a 2007 episode of 'Foyle's War' can attest, so perhaps a newer, younger actor was needed for the part. Helen and Lynley are just mismatched and I think Lesley Vickerage portrayed that well. I couldn't stand her. Must say, while I find it odd that actors are switched during a series I find this Helen far more believable and likeable than the previous one. Lynley is suspended and yet appears almost throughout, which means that Fiona Knight (DI) hardly gets a look in. Inspector Thomas Lynley is an up-and-coming detective at Scotland Yard; he . Well, in fact the old Helen was quite beautiful and slim and feminine, the "glamour/fashion" profile, as they say in the business, and could have been a runway model; whereas the new Helen has a very boxy face, mannish mannerisms, and is fairly matronly. And the link between Rookers past and present is the troubled young woman who's currently on the run. Even more horrifying is that the trigger was apparently pulled by a twelve-year-old boy. The anatomy of a murder, the story of a family in crisis, What Came Before He Shot Her is a powerful, emotional novel full of deep psychological insights, a novel that only the incomparable Elizabeth George could write. This is simply not enjoyable. Lesley Vickerage was born in 1961 in London, England. She was later portrayed by Lesley Vickerage from series one through three (from series three she and Lynley had married and she was thus known as Helen Lynley) and by Catherine Russell in series five. Completely disagree, so I'll agree to disagree.. . Let me start by saying that I am a loyal fan of Elizabeth George. DI Knight is not there at the end, but Lynley is which for me is quite disappointing given that she is a joy to watch throughout the piece, which, again for me, Lynley isnt! A forensic psychologist and Helen's former mentor, Finnegan has been murdered by a car bomb. "Do what they say,Shirl--they've got guns! Who was Helen Clyde in the Inspector Lynley Mysteries? We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. I liked the new Helen, so I was devastated when she was killed. . If she went after him; if she stopped him, everything would change; everything. The book is considered a "mystery" but it is a long, drawn out account of a very dysfunctional family set in the slums of London. Caught up, as she is, in her dilema, Thomas is involved in what appears to be a serial killer on the loose in England killing young boys. (She was an interior decorator, not in forensics.) I'm glad if Lynley can look beyond looks, but part of why he was attracted to Helen, was presumably her looks. They find their first suspect when a car at the funeral turns out to be owned by Peter Stephanopholous, a convicted murderer who Finnegan helped put away. All six series have since been released on DVD, distributed by Acorn Media UK. I dutifully skimmed the rest and read the last couple of chapters. as you all have pointed out this new Helen acts nothing like the old one. Her first published novel was A Great Deliverance in 1988, featuring Thomas Lynley, Lord Asherton, a Scotland Yard inspector of noble birth; Barbara Havers, Lynley's assistant, from a very working-class background; Lady Helen Clyde, Lynley's girlfriend and later wife, of noble birth as well; and Lynley's friends Simon and Deborah St. James. Their mother in a mental hospital. Helen is a presence this season, however, and is now played by Catherine Russell. . There is actual chemistry between her and Lynley; you can see them as a couple. Why would they choose three actresses who looked so different; they might at least have tried to get a similar hair color or style. Some of the writers of the letters understood what I was attempting to do; some did not care about anything other than the fact that Helen Clyde was dead, at my hands, and they themselveslike Lynleywere in turmoil over it. Lynley firmly . I'm watching the series now - from start to finish (by renting the DVDs) and am just amazed at this Helen. The brutal, inexplicable death of Inspector Thomas Lynley's wife, Helen, has left Scotland Yard shocked and searching for answers. 4 Episodes 2003. I quite like Elizabeth George so I thought I'd see if WCBHSH could justify the the conclusion of With No One As Witness. It's a "must read" book that will have you buying the next book in the series so you can find out what happens next! Sure, the other "family" members are mentioned and the family backgrounds is somewhat revealed, but way too much time is on the exploits of Ness, the sullen teenager who is beyond control. This would explain why it was never announced she had left--they may have hoped they would eventually be able to get her back after a season or so. When Lynley is tasked with quietly verifying that the accidental drowning of a rich dude's nephew really was an accident, he enlists Simon and Deborah's help. Does Helen marry Inspector Lynley? While I wasn't expecting a happy ending, it would have been nice if she could have thrown us a bone for at least one of the kids. The new Helen looks very jolly hockeysticks that is totally different to Lesley's portrayal of her. reply share Anyway, about the actual book- it is a very . Sorry mystery_perry. 1 Episode 2002. . the first helen was nice but she left a small impact as she was seen only in the pilot . Inspector Lynley tv series axed. By the end of this book, justice of any sort was not served and the child, like so many children in real life, suffered needlessly, his family was destroyed, and the real monsters walked free. Sorry !!! The "Helen" storyline should be written out--frankly, I would like to see Linley and Havers have a go! She had the wit and kindness of the book Helen, though she also was a CID profiler instead of Simon St. James's assistant. I got through it, but it was the worst Elizabeth George book I have read. [1] FAQ It wasn't me. I let her unfold her story and really don't try to outwit the detectives. Forum Member 15/04/18 - 08:24 #6. Thank you very much for your explanation Amparo. The man who found the body, James Pitchley, lives locally and has been detained until he can be ruled out of the investigation. It would make sense if the Helen-Deborah-Tommy triangle aspect were brought into the picture, since it's hard to put out an old flame. Anne says. She is an actress, known for The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (2001), Moonfleet (2013) and Inspector Morse (1987). Likewise, do Inspector Lynley and Havers ever get together? The Inspector Lynley Mysteries was a BBC television series that ran from 2001--2007, centered around the aristocratic Detective Inspector Thomas "Tommy" Lynley, 8th Earl of Asherton (Nathaniel Parker), and his working-class partner, Detective Sergeant Barbara Havers (Sharon Small), both of Scotland Yard. I actually prefer the new Helen. There was no briefing of Joel to help him pull it off, and yet no actual setting him up for certain failure. Like the other commenters I didn't figure out whodunnit until toward the end. But even still I could probably accept her if 2. she acted like the old Helen. She boldly approaches Lynley with a pitch to help her not only solve the murder, but to steer her through the maze of running the London office, acting as her mentor. Zero crowd appeal. But I read George for the mystery part of her books. This is one of the best Inspector Lynley episodes ever. The pilot episode, in two parts. I guess it all boils down to this: this book was supposed to show the background of a person guilty of a crime and how his circumstances led up to this crime. Torn between just letting him walk away, knowing that he'd keep out of her life, as you told him to, and going after him and . The first eleven episodes were based on novels by the American author Elizabeth George . No spoiler, but the 12 year old Joel is the person who kills Inspector Lynley's wife and the first half of the book is spent primarily on describing his anti social sister who becomes involved in drugs and very unsavory characters. "-VIOLENT YEARS. And innocent people die. The real perpetrator's are unknown to the police. Many questions; does anyone have answers? Helen is eager to be involved with the case but Lynley insists that she should be taking it easy. I always wondered why Lynley was attracted to a bitchy neurotic self-absorbed psychologist when the far more appealing Havers was right there at his side.In the books, Helen is a pleasant, elegant, and very attractive woman who fit Lynley's life style much better than Havers could, and the thing made sense.The departure of the old Helen is, for me, a breath of fresh air in a series that was getting moldy. You won't want to miss reading it. Who was the actress who played Helen Clyde? Jeanne Van Damm is the same. James "Murder Room" This Helen seems too sunny and level headed I cannot imagine her reacting to the marraige problems the way Helen did in previous episodes. it's riskier territory. Complete 180 degrees from the old one. . The 'Her' is one of Ms George's well-known characters, but you don't really know that until the last few pages of the book. So why bother? There are/were more believable romances and appealing love-interests, like Lewis and Laura Hobson (they really got a great chemistry, plus IMHO Holman is a better actress than Vickerage), Sam Tyler and Annie in "Life On Mars" or Richard and Camille in "Death in Paradise" (what a pity Ben Miller quit the show). was created by Nora I just wonder about the relationship between Inspector Lynley, and the two Helens I have seen on screen. Some fairly interesting things happen to Lynley over the course of the canon, including a horrific tragedy that, to my mind, brought the whole series crashing down into a depressing bore. 1 Episode 2002. It's the story of the Campbell children, 15 year-old Ness, 12 year-old Joel, and eight year-old Toby, who are left by their grandmother Glory. This one was. But 'De Gustibus Non Est Disputandam,' and so on. So now I know that. . How to Market Your Business with Webinars. Think Lynley, and Nathaniel Parker's darkly Byronic features will spring to mind. As it happened her husband lost their baby too. How do . I never could understand why the Lynley character was so mad about her. Guest stars included Timothy West as Andy Maiden, Sorcha Cusack as Nan Maiden, and Lesley Vickerage as Helen Clyde. At what point did Neal and the Blade start collaborating? The episode was shot on location in Yorkshire, with a generous landscape and a variety of farmhouses and inns as settings. Nathaniel Parker. Lesley Vickerage. Emma Fielding is perfect as Helen Clyde - so perfect - that one wonders why the producers subsequently replaced her in later episodes. Tags. Well-Schooled in Murder is a crime novel by Elizabeth George, published by Bantam in 1990.It was the third book in her Inspector Lynley series, which originated in 1988 with A Great Deliverance.In 2002 its screen adaptation was broadcast as the first episode of season one in The Inspector Lynley Mysteries, a BBC TV series.. Set in the late 1980s at an elite public school in the South of . Gabrielle Drake (born 30 March 1944) is a British actress. A-plus. Really? Awards In the meantime, the gun that she fired is traced to Rooker's best friend, ex-armyman Michael Wren. 4 Episodes 2003. She was my favorite of all the Helens. They did change the ending somewhat but what was written in the book was so . i only can highly recommend reading all the books . How can they expect us to accept that Helen would act the way on the show that the new Helen does? She brings the characters of Joel Campbell and his family to life and makes their struggle real and immediate. This new one is so unattractive, that I don't see him going for her. Find out which one . A Banquet of Consequences She couldn't set "Inspector Linley" in Los Angeles because she is fascinated by the idea of a "Toff.". Havers finds an address in Eugenies car suggesting that she was on her way to visit Pitchley. La Salle High School Football, I've read most of Elizabeth George's books, and am familiar with her characters, I think they're even a TV series. On admission to hospital, it's discovered that Helen's baby has died. She was a woman with blue eyes and brown hair, until she changed things. also tommys first love deborah plays a much much bigger role in the books. Click to see full answer. For one thing she smiles alot more than "lesley vickerage" ever did. 7 Who was the actress who played Helen Clyde? I thought she was homely, sour and dour. TVTropes is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. The victim, Eugenie Martin, has been knocked down and driven over several times. ik verwachtte een spannend Linley/Havers verhaal maar ik kreeg een zeer verontrustend verhaal over 3 jonge kinderen die door hun oma, aan wie ze zijn toevertrouwd na de dood van hun vader en opname in een tehuis van hun moeder, bij hun tante worden gedumpt. This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers. It is a page turner. Also, the repartee between the two of them that occurs in this episode is really heart-warming (it actually brought tears to my eyes a couple of times), and is done with nice touches of both pathos and humor. why did they change helen in inspector lynley It picks up a mere three months from the last book. Cam brady is killed while we cannot identify it appears the inspector lynley and managed to a grisly murder. He'd ordered a bit too much, really. . Lynley and his pregnant wife Helen attend the funeral of Professor Dermot Finnegan. Lynley is suspended (I can't recall why) but is still "around" on the outskirts in a vague sort of way (won't go into too much detail to avoid spoilers). Does Inspector Lynley stay married to Helen? Inspector Lynley. This is actually not a mystery really. i liked lesley vickerage as helen because she and tommy made a good looking couple together. Lesley Vickerage was such an awful actress that I was actually glad to see her leave the series. Can a book be worth reading when you know the ending? But the main idea contained in the line-viz., Helen's return to her home and kin-is neces- Havers is re-appointed to her rank of Detective Sergeant, and she and Lynley are assigned to investigate the murder of Morag McNicholl. It is well written, much like an old fashioned social history, but it is unrelenting in its' despair. Hoenstly? Includes four mysteries: Natural Causes, One Guilty Deed, Chinese Walls, and In the Blink of an Eye. And while Nathaniel Parker is certainly very easy on the eye, he cuts a ruggedly handsome figure, rather than being the super-smooth . If that is the case why is Silent Witness still around. ). Anyway, if somehow the series continues, I hope they either dispense with Helen altogether, or get an actress that is as wistful and dreamy and sensitive and poetic and pensive as the old Helen was.. . Helen Lynley 23 Episodes 2022. Alas we shall see no more of D and P. Viking, 576 pp., $28.95 Detective Inspector Thomas Lynley is says Detective Sergeant Barbara Havers, in her forthright, blundering way "a decent bloke, for all your fine ways and your family. Fans of the series mounted a campaign to save it, with a petition and by contacting the BBC, but to no avail. A forensic psychologist and Helen's former mentor, Finnegan has been murdered by a car . REPORTER: Jeannie! Pictures and footage emerging from the incident shows . Tey's 16-year-old daughter, Roberta, who witnessed the event, is now . She didn't give the man a chance and I really doubted (and hoped) they would get back together. Guest stars included Jenny Agutter as Jemma Sanderson, Terence Harvey as Nigel Sanderson, Daniel Ryan as Red Maguire, and Lesley Vickerage as Helen Clyde. . Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available from thestaff@tvtropes.org. But this book was so different. While Emma Fielding was the best of the 3 Helens, I can understand why she left after one episode. What Came Before He shot her, by Elizabeth George. Dingen die hij eigenlijk niet wil doen. In the 4th EP Helen does not appear and in number 5 we have again another and in EP 6 there is no Helen anymore (Hope . I really don't know what rating to give this book. Some love. They have him looking even "hipper" now. Well, in terms of an entertaining who done it, this is quite interesting with nice locations near to Dungeness in Kent. The Commissioner waved his hand, dismissing him. Should she go along with the clothes her mother-in-law has sent to her, that all the Lords have worn through the generations, or should she start a new tradition & buy new clothes for her soon to be born baby. why did they change helen in inspector lynley. This time it's D. I. Fiona Knight (Liza Tarbuck), who is about to give birth. Like any good pilot episode, much screen time is devoted to introducing the cast, but "A Great Deliverance" manages a gruesome, twisting murder mystery into the bargain. I had the impression we were supposed to understand Joel's revelations, but I'm not sure I did. 4 & 1/2 stars. No, I haven't read the books which may explain why Lynley chose someone who so dislikes him, is so neurotic, and is so ugly - but from the television programs, it doesn't make sense. I don't like books where the characters never change. The oldest, fifteen-year-old Ness, is headed for trouble as fast as her high-heeled boots will take her. In my opinion, this book was too much of a reminder of the world I have to face everyday, and I don't need that. I'm interested to see where the storyline is going, anywayI like Havers and would like to see her have a life.And as for Martin Shaw in the "Dalgliesh" roleI could not agree more with the previous postRoy Marsden IS Dalgliesh and Shaw's portrayal is almost like a totally different character. With Lynley fighting for his career, Havers steps up to discover who killer s beautiful, young blonde woman in a most callous fashion. Besides Vickerage always seemed a little neurotic and I often wondered why Lynley was so besotted by her. Set during the episode 'In Divine Proportion', after Tommy rescues Barbara from the pub but before Samantha Walthew's funeral. She has gone off to Jamaica to be with her boyfriend leaving the children to be cared for by their aunt Kendra. In the book Helen was not quite the sourpuss as depicted in the series. Jeanne Van Damm is the same. It involves the shooting of Inspector Lynley's wife, Helen, but Inspector Lynley does not participate in this novel, nor is the novel a mystery. "Has it occured to you that if she acted like the old Helen, people would complain that she's unoriginal and copying the original actress? 1 How did Helen die in Inspector Lynley Mysteries? It appears shes committed suicide, but Havers feels something is wrong and calls for assistance from Scenes of Crime Officers. How they must just be waiting for her to leave, so they could gossip. We use cookies and fonts from outside this websiteThat's fine with me Read our Policy. In those days it appears the BBC had to ensure the male investigator was superior to any female one! . Thomas Lynley 22 Episodes 2008. 5 What happened to Inspector Lynley wife? Lynley is a blue-blooded Scotland Yard Inspector. On admission to hospital, it's discovered that Helen's baby has died. Once Lynley married Helen, and once they resolved the critical issue of Helen's lack of self-worthshe chose the easy route, and she knows it. Lynley didn't lose much. Even so, how ironic it would have been had Lynley stayed behind Howenstowe rather than anywhere else. the third helen catherine russell did not fit to tommy at all .she felt and looked like his older sister. They've finally just begun showing the newest series (last night here in Tucson, AZ, USA). She and the whole annoying, almost soap-opera like drama about Lynley's and Helen's relationship is the main reason which spoiled this series for me and why I prefer other shows like "Lewis" or "Inspector George Gently". I really hope that George's next book will be more like those previous to this one! Lesley at least was sexy and and you wanted her in. But doing that only meant, without giving everything away, that THIS new Helen is destined to disappear from the series anyways. They are very easy and pleasurable reads and George writes a palatable mystery. Because they could not have forseen that Ness would attack Neal and thus be arrested, nor could they have forseen that Joel would so badly botch the mugging of the Asian lady. In this episode we learn Helen has been appointed a professor at some university in London. and it is; except not really. The new Helen is much more beautiful and warm, and seemed to actually *like* Lynley, whereas the old Helen I thought was just a total shrew. Lynley throws himself into solving the case. This should not have surprised Helen. Lesley Vickerage's Helen was miserable and whiny, and I couldn't stand her. They are dropped off at a spinster aunt's by their grandmother who didn't want to deal with them, and there seems no way out. They canceled the series after wefinished shooting, so there is no tie-up to it. This was more akin to a novel and it wasn't my cup of tea. I just read here in Forum a Swedish interview with Nat. This page has been archived and is no longer updated. Amanda Ryan. I agree with many posters here, Helen as played by Lesley Vickerage was indeed miserable and whiny and IMO neither beautiful nor particularly feminine (as someone had claimed). Maybe she realised that three is a crowd. . i am disappointet that elizabeth george did not write a last story where tommy finally found fulfilment in his job and some private happiness with a new love and an heir for howenstow. but the actress was perfect, and that's why the 2nd helen was a really bad choice, she just didn't have anything to do with the first one. Also at the funeral is a mysterious woman who no-one recognises and who slips away afterwards without talking to anyone. This one, however, has. On admission to hospital, its discovered that Helens baby has died. So to me it doesn't matter that Lesley Vickerage was such a poor choice because Helen is just not a nice character. )dialogue adds to the tediousness. | Given the negative reaction to this novel from many of Elizabeth Georges long-time fans, I fully expected not to enjoy this. . Can anyone tell me, please, why the actress was changed portraying Inspector Lynley's wife? And eureka, another Helen. the characters come so alive, and the reader is dragged (kicking and screaming, in my case) into the narrative. Lynley, is convinced that the answer lies in Morag's personal life especially when he learns that Morag had recently been contacted by the son she gave up for adoption eighteen years ago. by | Jun 30, 2022 | niebaum coppola family select | brian allen rams high school | Jun 30, 2022 | niebaum coppola family select | brian allen rams high school Her performance is to this day lauded as one of the best aspects of the series. . When she reached the Met, she parked and hurried in, nodding 'hello' to people who spoke to her. what is emerging is really, really good, and I wish they would market her books properly to reflect this change so that they'll reach the right audience. I could see Lynley falling for her more so than for either of the others. She couldn't set "Inspector Linley" in Los Angeles because she is fascinated by the idea of a "Toff.". Doesn't seem that we do, so I read some reviews and found we don't. The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (2001) Discussion, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Discussion, Everything Everywhere All at Once Discussion, All Quiet on the Western Front Discussion. Ive enjoyed EGs previous novels (all of them) and have always been impressed by her character development; what I hadnt realized is just how incredibly skilled she is at this.

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