Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. I know historically Philippe did leave Versailles for a time, but season two Louis without Philippe will be interesting because while Louis takes shots at him every chance he gets, at the end of the day Philippe is the only true person around him besides Bontemps. Sad to hear well have to wait a year for the next season Are there similar shows to this you could recommend? And what better way to keep Louis safe than have his Head of Security plant one of his spies in his bed? So, he loves Henrietta as a friend, or simply to rival his brother? Then Montcourt, the sly little worm, implies that Marchal will cop shit if Henriette dies and no culprit is found, and that Marchals judgement is lacking due to the whole de Clermont thing. So to me, this indicates hes still quite scared. Oh, and she was the one who prepared Henriettes tea. We see a quick shot of Montcourts body being dumped from a cart into the muddy swampiness, to join other rotting, decaying bodies. When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. Does all this excuse Philippe raping Henriette? And Rohan chuckles and I well. Cultural factors, too, played a part. But she is human and she can feel jealousy and make inappropriate remarks at inappropriate moments. I believe Louis did love her. Either way, she's dead now. Ill tell you, though, that, like you, I totally adore Philippe in this series, the actor is great and some King/brother interaction is well done. I choose to believe it was a mistake on the writers part and will simply fast forward over it when I rewatch. Rumourwent that he sent the poison to Effiat in retaliation for Henriette having him banished. You have never been a man whos true. Louis, who never forgave a slight, always ensured that the guilty paid dearly. He sent poison to Paris, where it passed through several hands before ending up in the jug containing the chicory water. We could never invade the entire world but the world can imagine us as their centre. My bed your last stop before retiring. Is it fair? , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? on The finale. Seizing upon Henriettes dying reproach of Philippe, he asserted that she had been the victim of a plot orchestrated by Lorraine, who held Henriette responsible for his exile and sought revenge. Montcourt 10 episodes, 2015 Gilly Gilchrist . Louis looks mega pissed. Get him out! Henriette cries. Louis stands outside: her life is in your hands, he says ominously. They take her hands. It is Louis, and not Henriette, whom I see as the one who does the greatest harm to Philippe. But his treatment of her does make me think, rather than an actual person, the writers have quite subtly used her as a tool: she is the only person Philippe can take his frustrations out on he knows she loves Louis, and at that point Louis is still very much in love with her Philippe knows this, and punishes Louis the only way he can, but punishing his mistress. You died of a cold, or a simple infection or someone sneezing on you. Henriette has become seriously ill, it might be poison and she is the sister of the King of England. Pretty sure he was not the one who did the poisoning thing. Marchal commands to clear the room, Louis adds: Not you, Montcourt. and the doors are sealed: no one enters. HOW DID THEY DO THAT SO PERFECTLY??? I wonder what theyve got in store for us. The Chevalier looks a little panicky or is it my imagination? A side-note: On Sophie. THIS. Rohan slits the other guards throat, watches from a distance as the young prince has a sack put over his head then bundled off. And suddenly Philippe is the calm one, says gently, brother and the look on his face, as the tears trickle gently down his cheeks the quiet sadness as Louis stares at him, then his realisation that this is it. While it seems like shes being unfair to Philippe, he doesnt really put up an effort to make himself lovable most of the time. There are a few movies I enjoy that are fairly accurate. It was just how it was. I was more appalled at Louis seeming lack of concern for his brothers life. Colbert: You believe her highness is poisoned? Marchal replies cryptically: I believe. He rapes his wife. In Paris, says Colbert. I am tired of waiting for you to keep it, says the Queen casually as she gets into bed with Louis then settles down. I especially like the pairing of her and Marchal. What a pain! Next time we see the painting in Ep 6 it has been moved to Henriettes room on her dressing table. Marchal, his shirt now stained with his wound, stumbles into the antechamber, to Bontemps and says: Listen to me. Nup. Thank you! Now we are with Marchal, who is interrogating Henriettes ladies, Sophie included. A fabulous shot of Versailles under construction and we are back inside, in Louis' chambers conducting business. And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. Protocol demands that he stays, Philippe says tightly. And for those who love her. Philippe replies ominously: we are all of us in sickness here. Season 1 | Season 2 Getting Started | Contributor Zone Contribute to This Page Add episode Of course not. Lovely. Philippe has no interest in Henriette, is not attracted to her or in love with her. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. In Ep 3, I believe this is the first time we see the painting, it is in Louiss chambers, to the left of the fireplace on an easel on the floor. And in the context of the show, I did find it a nice touch, the apology to him. Dieu. Back to Henriette, who is now laid out on a bed, hair done, powdered and dressed in her finest gown. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. I thought so but no. Im guessing they were pretty equal. And Bontemps replies: we are all proud of her, Sire. Louis: And now someone is trying to destroy me, by destroying her. Rohan appears: And they will not succeed I came as soon as I could I wish to offer myself to you as your subject and as your friend. UGGGGGH. According to the Savoyard ambassador, the king vowed that, if Henriette had indeed been poisoned, those involved would be tortured to death, including the chevalier de Lorraine, Philippes favourite, if he were implicated. And I do not regret it for an instant. Like he is trying to justify himself. Season Two Mike and the last of Rohans men are massacred in a last stand by the musketeers, led by Fabien Marchal. I very much enjoyed reading them and especially liked your additional facts about the historical events and figures. Louis wakes to the sight of Henriette, blood down her gown and from her mouth, saying help me please. Even gravely ill, she still choses Louis over her husband. but it is later, after they already speak with the guards in the background. He was named Louis Dieudonn (Louis the God-given) and bore the traditional title of French heirs apparent: Dauphin . So many questions.. let me see: did Fabien Marshal shoot Charlotte Parthanay, and if so, why? Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . Louis has not (even though yeah, okay, protocol). In summary, of the four people involved in this sad businessLouis, Philippe, the Chevalier and HenrietteHenriette is the most powerless, the one with the least choice in anything. Does Henriette mind being used by Louis? OMG!). The Queen rushes to her side as she collapses and Louis commands Bontemps to fetch his doctor. Point 9: And again, who can blame her. Episodio 10. However, I do have a comment to make about your previous post that you believed that Louis loved Henriette, however I dont completely agree with you on this one. Nothing. Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. Horrible man. I neglected to include the phrase in my opinion. #JesusTakeTheWheel What a scene. And the next shot is Louis in slow-mo, walking out. We defended our position from the Spanish all morning and in honour of your distinguished service. Moreover, we cant fault her anymore for continuing her relationship with Louis (as if she would have had the power to end it anyway) than we can Philippe for continuing his with the Chevalier. They had children. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. He rolls in bed, his cheek on a bloodied pillow, and suddenly wakes, realises what it is and follows the trail to Louis bedchamber. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. Required fields are marked *. I just binge-watched all 2 seasons and now painfully waits for each episode of Season 3 to come out. Louis smacks it away with the poker, Marchal steps in, Montcourt grabs a candlestick. And just like that, the light dims in his eyes, his face twists and his zealotry is gone. We establish right from the start that she has no powershe was forced to marry a man she did not want because the king wants to keep her close. Are there more shows you will review? The writers could have written a scenario where Henriette willingly sleeps with Phillipe to make Louis jealous and to provide in an explanation in the event she becomes pregnant. And who can blame her? Henriette mentions the issues she has with the Chevalier. The mortality rate was very high, thats why people had so many children so often. Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? Lot of time on my hands at the momentLULZ. Another suggestion is that she had porphyria, although she displayed none of its symptoms. The wedge is firmly being driven between Philippe and Louis, all their arguments and conflict and opposition for each other has been carefully constructed and built up over the last nine episodes, into this final one. These reactions perfectly suit and says a lot to their characters, plus George Blagden and Alex Vlahos as hugely talented actors. We will never know if Louis and Henriette ever did consummate their attraction, but the gossip of the time most definitely swayed in that direction. Coming from the quills of noted showrunners David Wolstencroft and Simon Mirren, both known for gripping series with a conspiratorial bent (i.e. I know this coming years later, but to Theresa THANK YOU SO MUCH. The rape thing was upsetting. Yes, absolutely. He was shut out of his mothers (Anne of Austria) last moments, while Philippe was in attendance, where, despite her appalling treatment of her second son, he openly wept and grieved. Claudine tries to give her something for the pain but she wont swallow, her throat is closing up. Anything Henriette had done to Philippe, he had done to herand worse. Bontemps suddenly appears; Henriette has been calling. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. I cannot permit it, he says. PERFECT. John Clare 191 subscribers Henrietta of England, Duchess of Orlans rushes to Louis XIV's chambers after being poisoned. I must be poisoned! so Philippe ordered her dog to be fed the water. The best visual of the whole episode. Why should we fault Henriette for not ending her incestuous relationship with her brother-in-law, the king, but Philippe can be forgiven for continuing his homosexual relationship with the Chevalier? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? Not so much. the kiss between the Chevalier and Philippe happens after the war, after Philippe has seen Louis bring Henriette to the front. We see Louis expression crumple, and he blinks, almost disbelievingly, and then Philippe is out the door. So thats why I believe that the most that Louis felt for Henriette was that he only loved her a little or to some degree but not enough. Such a beautiful moment, with Philippe building on their complex relationship, reminding Louis of a more simplistic time. Get Marchal pissed at you. Kill him, then me, and blame it on him. Marchal is still ordering: Get his Majesty to safety, at once! His guards rush in to remove him, they scuffle and Louis yells: get your hands off me! Philippe replies, almost resignedly: Im not asking for permission. Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. And to Ainee for perspective. What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. Its emotionless. Her mother (a french princess) is dead, and shes alone, probably the only English in the palace. elisabetta, oopsI should say figure, not charactersorry, english is not my first language . Yet even on her deathbed, she reaches for Louiss hand first. Philippe of course blames Louis for Henriette's poisoning as he was the one who sent Henriette as an ambassador abroad even though everyone begged him not to. One witness observed that Henriette looked like a dressed corpse upon whom someone had put some rouge, while others thought she had death painted on her face. You dont get to my age and experience with your naivete still intact. I love this show <3. It was really interesting reading both of your viewpoints. And then Marchal throws Montcourts words back at him: and when we are the Kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend, right? Yessss. I have heard many say they see angels before they die. (Ahhh! Henriette wanted to go!). My greatest issue with Henriette is that she seems to lack any personality. Except, when hes really angry and he rapes her. Is she a villain for this because of the thinking of the day? I have known your website for some time now but hadnt had much time to write a post until now. You, me, Henriette. (Historical note: it was forbidden for the King to be in the presence of death. Its really sad, she could have been a great queen with Louis (he might not be faithful to her, but they will have live better than now), but the turns of fate, made her his brothers wife instead. However, lets assume they are both equally dire sins. It could also be argued that Philippe is relatively powerless, but only where Louis, his older brother and his king, is concerned. He gives as good as he gets and so much worse. In reality it only took a very short time for the plan to take full effect. Such an angry outpouring from Louis, however, would have been out of character and no one else reported that he said any such thing. Philippe is jealous. Because Sophie steals any scene shes in with Henriette, hands down, and she even maintains a presence with Montespan, too, though Montespan is clearly the dominant one in most dynamics (the Chevalier excluded, of course swans fat flippers come to mind!) Stars: George Blagden, Alexander Vlahos, Tygh Runyan Director(s . He cares for her, but anytime he has to choose between Chevalier and her, he always choose the former. The writers of the show took quite creative liberty with the relationships some turned out to be clever and well-written, some I just eye rolled SO HARD. I just rot an extremely long omment Vatel (with Uma Thurman and Gerard Depardieu). Anne, Hi Jules He looks nervous and steps to Cassel, but Cassel rises and bows, along with everyone, as Louis enters. Still wouldve loved to read your long comment was it complimentary? It is always Louis for her. I do understand you are a fan of Philippe, but I dont understand why that nessitates that Henriette be viewed as the villian. The rape scene was repugnant and Phillipes actions were out of character with the Phillipe we saw in the rest of the season. The two Ms still fight, and Louis approaches, holding the poker. She finally asks. What does she say? Cats with nine lives. Philippe: my brother always trusted you. Claudine: I am honoured. Philippe whispers: I dont believe I know what it feels like. .. Emo Philippe, so dark and tortured! To which Marchal says: you are the daughter of a Huguenot conspirator to the King, funded and supported by William of Orange. But Sophie says her mother paid that price, she is merely trying to survive and thought Marchals protection would ensure it. Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. New episodes of " Versailles " air at 10/9c Saturdays on Ovation, but are rebroadcast throughout the week. He genuinely believes Philppe is a potential threat. Philippe had a relationship with the man he loved while Henriette continued to sleep with the man she loved. I love these seemingly random yet distinct choices made by directors and production designers. then goes into the bedchamber. I cant always catch what is being said, particularly if it an aside or a whisper but I know you will tell me . She brought honour on herself and glory to our court. . Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! On the other hand, Ive never doubted for a moment Philippes loyalty to his brother or his love for him. Louis approaches and she wakes. That is exactly what I would be thinking. He advances on Montcourt, who is looking a little shell shocked. YAAAAAY! Photograph: BBC. Then she says: can you feel my skin? And reaches out first to Louis, then Philippe. THIS. As to it appearing that it seems like it almost never happened. Its my weekly sin, I confess, Im too addicted to this period to miss it. Admittedly, its in the middle of a shag, when she is distracted, but still. But in context, with everything else going on in the show and with what Philippe deals with, I can understand why he did it. My thoughts on that notorious Henrietta/Philippe scene in episode one is that it is entirely out-of-character for Philippe as we get to know him through the rest of the series. Hold onto this moment, I told you. And she did it willingly. Philippe: Because you told her to. Louis: Because she was born to it. Philippe: Because she loves you. Louis: if we do not have the English, we cannot attack the Dutch. The look on Philippes face is incredulous yes, Louis is talking war when his wife lies dying. "Versailles" and I met by chance on Netflix. After Philippe shoots a couple rounds into the air he tells Louie, Brother we must go, the wolves will come back and there will be more. Did you have the same thought as I; that while in the moment the characters are talking about the actual wolves, the underlying message is about Louis and the traitors in his midst, starting with Moncourt. needless to say, all my writing is copyright to me, so don't be a dick and steal it. I think that if he really loved Henriette that much, he wouldnt have gotten over her so quickly and easily, once they dangled a pretty, young blonde newcomer court lady to distract him. Oh, Louis most definitely would choose France over his brother. Montespan banters but Louis doesnt bite. *Deeeeeep breath* Okay. No, of course she doesnt. Hi Jules and Aly, Much later, the courtier Saint-Simon offered his own thoughts. Yes, it was common to talk about marriage that soon! He weeps for the loss and I am sure he also weeps for the helplessness he must now feel, a man so powerful and commanding, who rules a country and its people a true King and yet, still unable to save her. I was merely pointing out how such treatment of his wife would hardly help warm her feelings towards him. Yet you heard nothing. Finally, the king weeps for his love, when he is alone. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. My apartment has no pisspot and I do hate to urinate in the stairwells. The Chevalier: Never stopped you before. (teeheehee) They are interrupted by the Duc de Cassel (who is looking even rougher and more filthy than usual. hes a critic, but there is another who has been hidden before us. At some stage, Musket Mike (the masked man) is outed as a Kings guard. I couldnt honestly say. In the days when it was only you who /truly/ had my back. And then down by the promontory. And Montespan was married too, so in the eyes of the church that was double adultery. Yet another possibility is that she had a duodenal ulcer which burst, leading to peritonitis. Montcourt turns and quickly leaves. Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction - and other times, period dramas take a little artistic license . Though it was true that he was saddened by Henriettes death, I dont felt that he was actually that hell bent on punishing those who were or at least believed to be responsible for her death, due to the lack of evidence among other factors. Are you suggesting that she would have the power to deny the king even if she wanted to? And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. . Anyways, he says: we cannot be seen together anymore. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. oh sorry, wrong show). Thanks for your great reviews! They talk about whats happening Marchal is questioning people, and Sophie was taken in that morning. Philippe weeps. How can you be scared? (sweet Philippe!) No doubt those in Philippes camp played on that too, to taint Henriette even more (Guiche UGH. Even the bouncing hair. The fact that she could feel anything at all for him (beyond disgust) by the end surprises me. No. In the early hours of 30 June, she died. Aaaaaand there we have the end of the episode and the end of Season One. We stake our claim or we are ploughed into the field. Bontemps wants to move her she cannot stay in the Kings bed. but Claudine says she cannot be moved. Why? I also cannot figure out why Louis and others speak freely in front of the guards when even they are unsure of their loyalty.. Both felt neglected by the other. Henriette portrayed by Pierre Mignard, 17th century, Henriette, Duchesse d'Orlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. She rises and silently leaves, then more people walk in to pay their respects the Chevalier included. Just because women were denied their personhood does not mean they were not human beings who felt as any human being might feel. Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? Both of them were in love with other people when they were forced to marry and they both were aware of that. The characters almost act as it never happened. We now see Philippe, so resigned, with tears down his cheeks, then Louis with a no, this is NOT happening. look on his face, eyes still dry. Id be happy with either, tbh! Thank you, Amy! You said And silently walks to the window. And remember you can also start at the beginning and read my reviews of EpisodesOne, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six,Seven,Eight. Says you made me marry him. Since the first stone was laid in this expansion. What to expect from the future? Rohan took him riding. Then he screams out: CALL THE GUARD!. (Historical note: mistresses were in competition with each other all the time, poison was effective and the murderer didnt have to deal with the messiness. I just wanted to tell you that I enjoy your reviews and will keep reading them through saison 2. Exactly. To spare his feelings? Still, Louis suspicions had been aroused and he ordered an autopsy, which was performed by French doctors and witnessed by others sent from England. Only honestly acknowledging that Philippes glorious death in battlesomething that would not displease Philippe, himselfwouldnt necessarily break her heart. I have some questions. His grip tightens on the poker, even as Montcourt looks actually shocked at that accusation. It is one or the other. Philippe replies calmly: You acted out of pride. Here it is, mes amis! While making this video i was inspired by the scene when Henriette talks about her first mask ball. I think I enjoyed your reviews as much as the show itself. We see Louis take what is rightfully and lawfully his his wife. She puts her foot in her mouth. b) To show a glimpse of vulnerability for Henriette because for all her power, she is still the property of her husband and can be treated as such. Also, his relationship with his brother was much less complicated than we see in this show, Philippe was a very simple person when it came to feelings, he was affectionate and friendly. As she made her last confession, the English ambassador, Lord Montagu, asked Henriette if she believed she had been poisoned. What a total prick ). And Louis, who is being so totally duped, is convinced by Rohan to take his son, the Dauphin, out to ride, so he is far away from the cries of pain. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. Louis asks Henriette to spy on her husband and she does not refuse. He tucks Louis in then gets into his small cot (that looks like a camping bed), fully clothed. The two are not mutally exclusive. Though only a few actually act on it. Marchal is having a hard time believing Montcourts usual crapabout returning to court because he is a true friend to the king and was his duty to inform him of a threat to Henriettes life. The midwife and doctor were horrified but there was nothing she could do!!! And Philippe says calmly and quietly: There. And dragging Effiat into it too, for a) being a mignon loyal to the Chevalier, and b) his familys involvement in the Fronde, during Louis XIIIs reign. Point 5: Ah, Henriettes remark about Philippes glorious death in battle. You said everything that should have been pointed out a long time ago, with counterpoints and parallels that shone a light on some arguments and favoritism that , within the context of the show not history, were just mind boggling. Especially as her lover was the king. Is it a bigger crime than boy love? Montcourt looks nervous, says he doesnt know what he means. I did have a thought, though, why the writers didnt build up to her being the young version of one of Louis mistresses, he had so many. My biggest problem with Henriette/Louis is that I find it highly doubtful that Louis would have sex with her. Okay, Im gonna walk you through what I see, so bear with me. Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. And in 1671 during Louis three day visit to the Prince de Conds Chteau de Chantilly, the Master of Festivities and Pleasures Franois Vatel killed himself over the late delivery of fish, and Louis was quickly hustled away (as shown in the wonderful 2000 Gerard Depardieu movie, Vatel)), So we see Claudine striding to the bedchamber but her way is barred. God knows the wolves might have taken us but what did we know? I am really liking Sophies growth as a character, who is, of course, beautiful, but with attitude and a strong backbone, as we are now seeing. First off let me say that I absolutely love your reviews of Versailles, Ms. Jules. Thanks for the correction I listened to that audio over and over but couldnt quite get the last word! Louis strolls over to the fireplace and picks up a poker, calmly summarising whats happened on his roads, his people dying, attempts on his own life, and now his beloved Henriette. She stays. Philippe: And so do I.. Philippe has done as little to win her affection as she has to win his and Philippe certainly flaunts his lover in her face far more than she does hers in his. Right. If Id been in her shoes, I think Id have given a flat affirmative. Im thinking no. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. But your first strike would have to be true. They could be far away from the victim at the time of death, so it would be difficult to definitively pin on anyone. plus its almost as if he has something to say, to hide. The flashback of Charlotte being shot is in his head, reminding us (the audience) what happened previously and confirming that Marchal now knows how it was done. Beating your wife was also quite legal, acceptable and, indeed, expected. It happened so fast, but did Fabien Marshal shoot Charlotte Parthanay, and if so, why? Mike did. It was all out there. 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