Chris, this is an excellent analysis that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. Keller had been at the house. Maybe the newspaper article was premature (but then why show it)? Hey again! Also, the first time we see the girls outside theyre wearing gloves. Alex Jones also refers to a maze. And just to put a bow on it, when Grace brings Anna to see Loki, a similar silence occurs. Alex, nostalgic about his own childhood, tries to play with the girls in the RV. By visiting his former home, he must remember a time before he was entrapped! Other than that, enjoy Villains Wiki!!! Themes are developed through motifs. Accepting not just the bad but the good as well. Theres a second Alex in Prisoners. Holly Debord; Van Havis. And they may not have had anything to go on. I especially appreciate that you explained the connection of religion & faith-I never thought much of it and Im somewhat serious about my Catholic faith myself, well, until those fundamental issues arise that you have raised ofcourse! With the motifs in mind, we can finally get to what I think is the most interesting thing about Prisoners. Im only 13 minutes in right now, but it is interesting! She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also playedSally in Oblivion. His real parents are the prisoners. Keller keeps Alex in a box thats similar to a confessional box. Adding to that, Holly probably never reported him missing (wouldnt have wanted police poking around her place), so his name wouldnt have come up when the detectives were checking past missing persons cases for a man who disappeared 5 years previously. The notion of a prison recurs so often. Its almost as though his body forces him tobut during the chase to save Annas life, Loki was driving blind. They move the car. As for Keller going to prison I mean we would need modern examples of this type of situation. Check out the rest of our movie guide for Prisoners. Thats Bob Taylor, one of the many children Holly and her husband had abducted. Spiritual imprisonment: Holly and her husband found it impossible to move beyond their belief God had wronged them. It put tape on my mouth. But in the moments before she speaks, we see Joys memory of escaping, the flashes of being in the house, on the ground, someone leaving the room, the book of mazes they had to complete, running away. So does. Even without dogs, in all the time spent around the aunts house no one noticed there were tracks behind an old supposedly non-functioning car? Into the frame comes the barrel of a shotgun. Find latests mugshots and bookings from Abilene and other local cities. We only learn that the items have been bought. Then after Alex was let go, I think the police chief was hesitant to do anything more. Holly Maria Jones (September 14, 1992 - May 12, 2003) [1] was a 10-year-old child abduction and murder victim from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The profound trauma capable of changing the intrinsic nature of a person, their beliefs, their language. In this way, the movie itself becomes a bit of a prison, a kind of labyrinth we can lose ourselves in. Check your email or visit the Flickr blog for more information to celebrate your 2022 on Flickr. But they were previously a very religious couple and perhaps some of that still lingered as they indulged in ritual before they killed each of their victims. I believe the drug Holly was injecting into Anna was ketamine. Since her son's death, she has become a cold, deeply disturbed and depraved human being, wanting nothing but for others to feel her pain. Tired of all the brainwashed/braindead people out thereneed to know there are people out there figuring this out like RFK jr. Holly's husband is the corpse that [] Just some observations. $12.99 Read with Our Free App. I could see that. When we were shooting, we did shoot a version where it goes a little beyond where the fade out is. It was on screen so briefly, and Netflixs Pause function obliterates whatever Im trying to read, so I didnt bother. And the imprisoned Alex Jones eventually tells his captor that the girls are, In the maze.. What fate for Keller do we accept? -Prisons (physical, emotional, mental, spiritual)-Mazes-Religion. Armed with a hidden gun, Keller heads to see Holly, but she soon learns he knows she kidnapped the girls and prepares her own revolver, which she aims at him upon arrival without hesitation once he voices he knows the truth. Holly and her husband, who used to be fundamentalist believers, might have practised snake-handling as part of their faith and would have kept snakes for that purpose. Also in the hospital when Joy says you were there. Derrick Chambers, Superintendent. That really ties it all together, doesnt it? And others will have a more cynical outlook that hes become who hes become and is kind of terrifying. When he discovers the door to the basement behind the fridge, there is no staircase (the hole under the car also has no ladder) yet he quickly drops down to investigate and finds the body, 3. But IMO the explanations for Taylors weird actions do not hold together upon close scrutiny. But then midway through the movie, Keller Dover kidnaps Alex Jones and keeps Alex prisoner. But sometime during Kellers torture of Alex, the dynamic changes. And was the name given by the Romans to Dover, England, according to DoverHistorian.com. We see from your examples (Alex telling Keller his girls cried after being interrogated, and his torture of the dog) that the abuse he has suffered has caused him to become capable of abuse himself. Possible, but as a main oremise it seems a bit thin. Door handle: Loki checks handles a couple times. Both Taylor and Alex are old enough that they could physically move beyond what happened to them. . It tells the story about how Kendricks mentor, Top Dawg, robbed a fast food place that Kendricks dad worked at. I assumed that it was Bob and he was referring to when he was captured by the police in the van at the rest stop. Takes them both to work out the solution. Though she is not suspected by the police, Alex is, as the girls were seen playing around his RV before the capture. What happened to Alex after Loki found him? Jones, as a last name, means son of John. And John, as a name, means God is gracious. The irony here is that Hollys child died. Great acting, including Melissa Leo as Holly, so soft spoken, chilling. Please also note the professors I have been working with at the end of this video. 303 East Church Street Post Office Box 69 919-894-3616 919-894-2091 . And this guy being a carpenter, someone who turns living trees into objects. So it could be something like that. He was the guy with boyish good. Is it the content of the game? Now these parents have a son that kidnaps/molests/drugs/kills little kids. Not sure how much I buy into it, but its an example. Bridger is serving a full . The girl saw him or heard him though he didnt see the girl. Or in the movie Us, we have subterranean beings created by the government. He needs someone like Loki to be there at the right place and time! But he is stuck in that child-like mentality and he did know what was going to happen to those kids, like he did with so many others. Grace completely falls apart in the wake of Annas disappearance, to the point of being non-functioning. And what if he does! Its a little of everything. Thats really interesting. In the largest mass commutation in US history, at least . Their sonstill a childdies, causing them tremendous grief. Hi Lory! Unbeknownst to him, Joy and Anna are in another room and Joy sees him/hears him. Obsessively drawing mazes on the walls because he cant stop reading an FBI agents book about the mysterious child abductor, known as the Invisible Man, who was never caught (and who was actually Holly and her husband). . Hes essentially trapped in being the caretaker for his mom. If you consider the lessons a child would learn, being taken, taught to never speak up, an abandonment of all hope & good in the world. Let me know if you have thoughts. Or the sum of other religions being in service to the Christian God? Theres the world within a book shes reading that was written by her ex (Jake Gyllenhaal, funny enough). It is Villeneuve's first predominantly English-language feature (his prior ones being mainly in French). Just one question: how come the parents recognised their daughters clothes at the police station but didnt realise that they were not the ones the girls wore when they disappeared? Or in the movie Black Swan, a theme is duality, so we often see the main character, Nina, reflected in mirrors or windows. I love it that youre so active in the comments and engaging with readers, it encourages me (and hopefully other readers) to revisit movies with new perspectives in mind and discuss further. The body is beyond recognition, but there is a necklace of a maze. Their pain turns to anger at God, as such tragedy must have been His will. I believe that Loki will save Keller. Sat, 21 Jun 2003. In the Bible the snake is definitely associated with temptation. I thought that was a major clue about the protagonist Keller Dover but at the end of the movie it seems to be a complete coincidence. Or Barry. But its done in this subtly disorienting way to make you have a sense of, Waitwho was that guy and then hopefully figure it out and have an ah-ha! A month? Taylor was lucky enough to have survived (others did not), though its never explained how long he was there, or when he left, or howjust that he had been abducted, was kept by the Joneses, then was out being an adult. The simplest answer is just Theyre in shock and that makes memory difficult. Because its actually something the girls had, how else would it get there? At the end the news paper article said he was found and reunited with his family so he was alive, it seemed like a death notice to me too until I saw that. Does no one in Hollywood understand these simple things or are they such standard props that we are supposed to accept them knowing full well how ludicrous they are? You know, a room thats underground. Holly Jones was abducted in her neighbourhood after walking a friend home from school. I find this often ruins performances for me; in this case, not awful, just distracting; and despite all of the cursing and yelling and punching, I just didnt buy it. She was there less than a week. The film has an ensemble cast including Hugh Jackman, Jake Gyllenhaal, Viola Davis, Maria Bello, Terrence Howard, Melissa Leo, and Paul Dano. Hed have explained what happened. I didnt find any particularly bad the way you did. But the more you dig into Prisoners it eventually becomes clear as day that the entire movie is this layered exploration of various types of prisons: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. He equally needs the cold and frosty weather because hes shot and maybe this will keep him alive a little longer (dont know, I am not a doctor) or keep the drug from effectively knocking him out. If someone would have put 2 and 2 together they could have solved it way sooner. Really happy to hear that! But isnt it also highly unlikely that Taylor managed to buy clothes which looked exactly like the items worn by the girls? Did Hollys husband have more dirt on the priest that could have gotten him in more trouble? I have kids and if they were ever kidnapped I would pick them being killed than for them to do what Alex did. Alex is taken into custody, but is quickly released due to his IQ being the same as a ten year old. Germanic paganism/mythology (of which Norse is an offshoot) put great symbolic importance on trees and forests and stones. I hesitate though because Bob was out of the house and living on his own. Man, I didnt even think about the carpenter thing. Alex succumbs to Kellers torture and mentions a maze, so Keller goes to Hollys house to see if she will reveal something about a maze. While Alex is a victim, he can be a dick. Lokis name means: prison, to break, to end, fire, which is also an interesting connection with he movie. And part of Taylors thing is recreating the maze. We see how he buries the mannequin in his yard. Thanks for the analysis. Explore holly jones's 396 photos on Flickr! Thanks. And I read some of it after watching the film a little. To lose a child to a violent death is an unimaginable horror, but it's a horror . Another similar piece of the puzzle which is teased to us In addition to this part of her routine was the large bottles of mysterious drink; addressed when keller is held at gunpoint and made to drink a third of the bottle. Loki hadnt been able to keep up with Keller but thought he knew Keller was going to the old apartment building. Uploaded: Federal Inmates. This would be how they have the image of the maze. Keller soon realizes that Holly was the real kidnapper. Thats an interesting point about the zodiac signs! Its Hollys husband, and hes wearing the same maze necklace as the mysterious body from the basement. Full Name Franklin, Joys dad, objects to Kellers treatment of Alex, but participates for a time because he feels he has no other option if he wants to get his daughter back. Thanks. That way people without a doubt understood the point was for the album to have a happy ending one way and a tragic ending the other way. TORONTO - Police in Toronto on Friday arrested a 35-year-old man and charged him in connection with the killing of 10-year-old Holly Jones. etc. (Though it is mentioned it was a small accident, and that Alex was merely afraid of them.) I think the layman tends to miss out on the motifs but grasps the plot. Yeah, holding back the last part of the prayer is a huge moment. I like your version of Loki saving him from hell of his own making but in spite of wonderful reasoning by Loki, what would have happened had Keller not listened to Alex when he was released and then not imprisoned and tortured him until he said they are in the maze? It had happened in broad daylight, in the Junction Triangle neighborhood in west Toronto, and detectives would find out later there were witnesses. Hope that made sense haha! Theyre prisoners, right? Theres no prints. Snakes are the tempter on the Bible? I think your quote from Villeneuve about the trees as silent witnesses supports this. Join our movie club to get similar movie recommendations and stories delivered to your inbox every Friday. Join Facebook to connect with Holly Jones and others you may know. If he was, then he wouldnt have continuously lied to the police and Keller. I like it much better being ambiguous. His rapid eye blinking is almost like a tick that may have varies meaningsone of which is that the man rarely blinks. Is it half full or half empty? This can be the complicated nature of someone who has been hurt as substantially as Alex has been hurt. And the movie deals a lot with the circle of life, the dawning of a new age, new beginnings, etc. I must reiterate how spectacular this review was. Denis Villeneuve's "Prisoners" does not go that route. Thats the only way he can communicate to Loki where the girls might be, what happened to him, etc. Denis Villeneuve and company accomplished this by placing key backstory and exposition details throughout the movie without ever having a scene that clearly ties them all together. Funny enough, Dover Historian mentions in Turkey the word means to beat or hit a person. Keller Dover definitely did a lot of dovering in Prisoners.). But her husband was more complicated. And the hidden basement with the hole in the ground. That kind of foreshadowing is done for a reason. They said specifically that the DNA and dental records came back with no match. Skai fastened a venomous snake over Lokis face, and from it poison dripped. It's time to celebrate #MyFlickrYear22! If the dogs came by at all. So no coincidence! Then you will see that what Im saying is absolutely true. Our Solicitors and Barristers - Reeds Solicitors Home > Our People Our People Reset Filters Abbie Blake Caseworker Adam Makepeace COLP Adam Orchard Senior Caseworker Alan Ridler Police Federation Manager, Criminal Law, Regulation and Professional Discipline Alexa Clement Solicitor & Team Leader Alison Page Chartered Legal Executive Amalia Davis The rest are just kind ofdoing their part? Bobs almost completely externalized his pain. The Monkey and Rooster zodiac signs, which Jake discusses with the waitress foreshadow the character traits of Jake (Loki) and Hugh (Keller). Yeah, it seems thats the case. Or implied that he drove on his own just fine. Or that hell never make a mistake. We know Bob Taylor was abducted by Holly Jones and her husband. Prisoners is a 2013 American thriller film directed by Denis Villeneuve from a screenplay written by Aaron Guzikowski. We werent given any other reason for Dover Snrs death, were we? Great analysis!! And seems to have no one to talk to about what happened. That says a lot about his mental state, the degree of Stockholm Syndrome hes experiencing. The article mentions that his co-worker Mr Dover didnt make any comments. Near the end of the movie, Holly Jones is explaining that Alex was the first boy they took after their son died, and that his name hadnt been Alex that it had been Jimmy. Thus, we know how long he was there. Why? How do you create a plot with supposed depth and cleverness and use so many ridiculous elements? Bob Taylor hears about the girls gone missing and plays kidnapper by doing weird stuff like showing up at the vigil and stealing clothes and burying mannequins in his yard (. How did he get to Hollys house? Yeah, Regrading Alex, I guess theres still a lot thats up in the air. Not everything is clever or meaningful. 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